SPOILERS: Just finished SoS !!!

[D***@webtv.net]

it wasn't my favorite of the series. May have been my least favorite.
Mostly because it seemed mostly unnesessary. Not much happened.
Didn't really mind the cliffhanger though since we know the end is just
a couple of months away. THe sub-chapter going in to the "Uncommon
sorrow" song lost me badly. The bok had it's high points though. Loved
the resolution to Black 13. How do others feel about the real world
connection here? Also am very intrigued by the way King is writing
himself into it. Is this a good thing to other readers? I'm assuming
the fictional King isn't dead but has moved into Roland's world much
like Jake did the first time. The question is will King join the ka-tet
or battle them? Or will he figure into it in some other way?

DON THE OBSCURE !!!
GO ALLIED TROOPS!!!
"By believing nothing someone says you as effectively surrender control
to them as by believing eveything they say."!!!

[warp]

Post by D***@webtv.net
it wasn't my favorite of the series. May have been my least favorite.

My favorite of the DT saga is still "Drawing of the three" but I rate SoS as
one of his better books although not as one of his best.

Post by D***@webtv.net
Mostly because it seemed mostly unnesessary. Not much happened.

Was your book different from mine? It happened a lot but I have to admit
that it was very short.

Post by D***@webtv.net
Didn't really mind the cliffhanger though since we know the end is just
a couple of months away. THe sub-chapter going in to the "Uncommon
sorrow" song lost me badly. The bok had it's high points though. Loved
the resolution to Black 13.

There was a resolution to black 13? Must have missed it. Last thing I
remember is that Jake took it from the hotel tresor and locked it away in a
rent storage in the WTC. Question is: will someone fetch black 13 from there
before 11/9 or will it be destroyed in the incident and what is going to
happen if it's be destroyed.

Post by D***@webtv.net
How do others feel about the real world
connection here? Also am very intrigued by the way King is writing
himself into it.

Me too, but did he really met Roland and Eddie in 77?

Post by D***@webtv.net
Is this a good thing to other readers? I'm assuming
the fictional King isn't dead but has moved into Roland's world much
like Jake did the first time. The question is will King join the ka-tet
or battle them? Or will he figure into it in some other way?

I don't think that the Stephen King in SoS is dead, I read the writers coda
not as a part of the story.

Post by D***@webtv.net
GO ALLIED TROOPS!!!

-Shepherd Book- "There was some disagreement on that point..."

keep flying...

Steve

[Matthias Wenigwieser]

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
How do others feel about the real world
connection here? Also am very intrigued by the way King is writing
himself into it.

Me too, but did he really met Roland and Eddie in 77?

Are you serious?

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
Is this a good thing to other readers? I'm assuming
the fictional King isn't dead but has moved into Roland's world much
like Jake did the first time. The question is will King join the ka-tet
or battle them? Or will he figure into it in some other way?

I don't think that the Stephen King in SoS is dead, I read the writers coda
not as a part of the story.

Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7, but
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.

Matthias

[Liz]

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
How do others feel about the real world
connection here? Also am very intrigued by the way King is writing
himself into it.

Me too, but did he really met Roland and Eddie in 77?

Are you serious?

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
Is this a good thing to other readers? I'm assuming
the fictional King isn't dead but has moved into Roland's world much
like Jake did the first time. The question is will King join the ka-tet
or battle them? Or will he figure into it in some other way?

I don't think that the Stephen King in SoS is dead, I read the writers

coda

Post by warp
not as a part of the story.

Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7, but
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

There are other worlds than these.

Liz


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Post by Liz
There are other worlds than these.

Yes, but still King's death (and the fake writer's journal) was part of the
story told in SoS and not completely unconnected to the story as the
original poster claimed.

Matthias,

[D***@webtv.net]

<<Yes, but still King's death (and the fake writer's journal) was part
of the story told in SoS and not completely unconnected to the story as
the original poster claimed.
Matthias,>>

I suggested that?

DON THE OBSCURE !!!
GO ALLIED TROOPS!!!
"By believing nothing someone says you as effectively surrender control
to them as by believing eveything they say."!!!

[Matthias Wenigwieser]

Post by D***@webtv.net
I suggested that?

Uh, of course not. "warp", I meant. My bad, sorry.

Matthias

Post by D***@webtv.net
DON THE OBSCURE !!!
GO ALLIED TROOPS!!!
"By believing nothing someone says you as effectively surrender control
to them as by believing eveything they say."!!!

[DM70]

Post by D***@webtv.net

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
How do others feel about the real world
connection here? Also am very intrigued by the way King is writing
himself into it.

Me too, but did he really met Roland and Eddie in 77?

Are you serious?

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
Is this a good thing to other readers? I'm assuming
the fictional King isn't dead but has moved into Roland's world much
like Jake did the first time. The question is will King join the

ka-tet

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by warp

Post by D***@webtv.net
or battle them? Or will he figure into it in some other way?

I don't think that the Stephen King in SoS is dead, I read the writers

coda

Post by warp
not as a part of the story.

Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7,

but

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

There are other worlds than these.

But they met King in the world where things were "for keeps."

DM

[lrn2swim]

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7, but
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

im not sure if he's dead now as part of the story. i kinda viewed as a
foreshadowing of the events to come if roland and the ka-tet dont change
things. (or something)

[Endy9]

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7,

but

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

im not sure if he's dead now as part of the story. i kinda viewed as a
foreshadowing of the events to come if roland and the ka-tet dont change
things. (or something)

I assumed the last section to have happened in "the real world" as something
that can't be undone by Roland or anyone. What I can't figure out is who
will write the last few books of DT since in "the real world" King is dead
by 99.

[Stevo]

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of

King's

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7,

but

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

im not sure if he's dead now as part of the story. i kinda viewed as a
foreshadowing of the events to come if roland and the ka-tet dont change
things. (or something)

I assumed the last section to have happened in "the real world" as something
that can't be undone by Roland or anyone. What I can't figure out is who
will write the last few books of DT since in "the real world" King is dead
by 99.
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Powered on by the beating of hearts~ -XTC
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When I read the part about King dying, I interpreted it as the writer of the
story was dead and now Roland and the Ka-tet are on their own to finish the
tale. I saw it as King; A, stroking his own ego by writing himself into the
story; B, removing the deus ex machina element by killing himself off and
giving the characters a sort of freewill to end things on their own.

The last bit of the commala was what gave me that idea, "Commala-come-come,
the battle's now begun!" After the announcement of his death? Seemed like
a good way to kill the above two birds with the same stone.

Two months will tell!

Steve

PS - I think this was my first post to this group. Hi all!

"There is no village idiot here, we all take turns." - Stephen King "Bag of
Bones"

[Matt F]

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of

King's

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in

book

Post by lrn2swim
7,

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by lrn2swim
but

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

im not sure if he's dead now as part of the story. i kinda viewed as a
foreshadowing of the events to come if roland and the ka-tet dont change
things. (or something)

I assumed the last section to have happened in "the real world" as

something

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
that can't be undone by Roland or anyone. What I can't figure out is who
will write the last few books of DT since in "the real world" King is dead
by 99.
--
Dennis/Endy
http://home.comcast.net/~endymion91/
~Dancing us from darkest night is the rhythm of love
Powered on by the beating of hearts~ -XTC
--

When I read the part about King dying, I interpreted it as the writer of the
story was dead and now Roland and the Ka-tet are on their own to finish the
tale. I saw it as King; A, stroking his own ego by writing himself into the
story; B, removing the deus ex machina element by killing himself off and
giving the characters a sort of freewill to end things on their own.
The last bit of the commala was what gave me that idea,

"Commala-come-come,

Post by lrn2swim
the battle's now begun!" After the announcement of his death? Seemed like
a good way to kill the above two birds with the same stone.
Two months will tell!
Steve

Very interesting theory. Thanks for sharing!

M.

[David Atkinson]

I finished S.O.S. about a month ago, now. And, I'm starting to think
that Stephen King did in fact die after being hit by the van. But, that
would leave the question....who wrote the last 3 books???

If you notice in the dedication of the 6th book it says: "For Tabby, who
knew when it was done"

I think you'll find that Tabby is writing in one world (the one in which
Stephen is killed), --- the real world; while Stephen still writes in
our world. This is King's way of saying that we live in a fantasy
world-- too screwed up to be real.

LOL

Post by lrn2swim

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7,

but

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.
Matthias

im not sure if he's dead now as part of the story. i kinda viewed as a
foreshadowing of the events to come if roland and the ka-tet dont change
things. (or something)

[DM70]

"David Atkinson" <***@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:***@sympatico.ca...
I finished S.O.S. about a month ago, now. And, I'm starting to think that Stephen King did in fact die after being hit by the van. But, that would leave the question....who wrote the last 3 books???

If you notice in the dedication of the 6th book it says: "For Tabby, who knew when it was done"

I think you'll find that Tabby is writing in one world (the one in which Stephen is killed), --- the real world; while Stephen still writes in our world. This is King's way of saying that we live in a fantasy world-- too screwed up to be real.


Or is Tabby writing it in our world?

DM

[Doug Cunningly]

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Little joke in there when their discussing money King might have gotten,
"royalties?"

In the world they think is the real one, Roland looks like Stephen King.
But didn't Jake say he looked like Clint Eastwood in an earlier book? It
would be rather hard to mix those two guys up, no?

And what's with Co-Op City being in Brooklyn vs. the Bronx? King
said he thought it was there too. Although living in Maine and having not
written anything past the first DT book, Carrie, and 'Salems Lot at that
point, it's hard to believe that he would have even heard about Co-Op City,
which is just a big NYC housing project. Not big news in little towns in
Maine.

I'm still waiting for a twin tie-in to Freedomland, an amusement park that
got knocked down to build Co-Op City. It was America shaped and had parts
from all over the country. And it had a steam train ride around the park,
but no monorail. They didn't come out till the worlds fair in 64.

Doug

[stePH]

Post by Doug Cunningly
In the world they think is the real one, Roland looks like Stephen King.
But didn't Jake say he looked like Clint Eastwood in an earlier book? It
would be rather hard to mix those two guys up, no?

Jake thought Eastwood's eyes were the same, not Eastwood himself. Just
like one of the cops in _The Drawing of the Three_ thought Roland's
mannerisms (when he was possessing Jack Mort) were like Schwartzenegger
in _The Terminator_.

stePH

[warp]

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by warp
Me too, but did he really met Roland and Eddie in 77?

Are you serious?

Oops, forgot the simily, so here you are :-)

Post by Matthias Wenigwieser

Post by warp
I don't think that the Stephen King in SoS is dead, I read the writers

coda

Post by warp
not as a part of the story.

Huh? It obvously *is* part of the story. And even Susannah heard of King's
death (although in a dream sequence). He might still be alive in book 7, but
it certainly appears he's dead now - as part of the story.

For me it wasn't obvious that it is part of the story, although I'm somewhat
relieved now, because I was really shocked when I read of all his alcohol
and drug problems and that is exactly why I thought the coda must be some
kind of apology to the constant readers for delaying the story line for so
long. Also I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be happy that all books of the
DT-Sage are written. Somehow it reminds me of Matrix Reloaded and
Revolutions. We'll see in DT VII...

keep flying...

Steve