Is Cell connected to Dark Tower?

[Keeper of the Purple Twilight]

Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

[trash]

Post by Keeper of the Purple Twilight
Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

One of the fairground rides was 'Charlie the choo-choo' - which I
think amounts to a bona-fide 'connection' ... but the raggedy man
wasn't even a character, per se, just a body speaking with the
'hive-mind', although he *did* represent the opposing faction in a
mid-apocolypse face-off, so I can see where the feeling comes from.

trash

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Post by Keeper of the Purple Twilight
Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

One of the fairground rides was 'Charlie the choo-choo' - which I
think amounts to a bona-fide 'connection' ... but the raggedy man
wasn't even a character, per se, just a body speaking with the
'hive-mind', although he *did* represent the opposing faction in a
mid-apocolypse face-off, so I can see where the feeling comes from.
trash

Clay's comic book character could be interpeted as Roland.

[Shawn Robertson]

randall flagg is from the stand

[s0183616]

Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

and Eyes of the Dragon, and the Dark Tower series, and Hearts in
Atlantis, etc...

[Bob]

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Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

and Eyes of the Dragon, and the Dark Tower series, and Hearts in
Atlantis, etc...

Forgot about EOTD. Could you refresh my memory as to his role in
HIA,long time since I read it and him being in it doesn't even sound
vaguely fimilar to me.
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Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

and Eyes of the Dragon, and the Dark Tower series, and Hearts in
Atlantis, etc...

Forgot about EOTD. Could you refresh my memory as to his role in
HIA,long time since I read it and him being in it doesn't even sound
vaguely fimilar to me.

He wasn't onscreen in that book. Can't remember the details, but he was
kinda like a cult-leader type person that Carol was hanging around
with a bit. Went by another RF name (Richard something...?).

[Bob]

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Post by Bob

Post by s0183616

Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

and Eyes of the Dragon, and the Dark Tower series, and Hearts in
Atlantis, etc...

Forgot about EOTD. Could you refresh my memory as to his role in
HIA,long time since I read it and him being in it doesn't even sound
vaguely fimilar to me.

He wasn't onscreen in that book. Can't remember the details, but he was
kinda like a cult-leader type person that Carol was hanging around with
a bit. Went by another RF name (Richard something...?).

That actually sounds familiar now.
--
-Bob


"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought
which they avoid."
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"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
those who don't have it."
- George Bernard Shaw
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Post by Bob

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Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

and Eyes of the Dragon, and the Dark Tower series, and Hearts in
Atlantis, etc...

Forgot about EOTD. Could you refresh my memory as to his role in
HIA,long time since I read it and him being in it doesn't even sound
vaguely fimilar to me.

He wasn't onscreen in that book. Can't remember the details, but he was
kinda like a cult-leader type person that Carol was hanging around with
a bit. Went by another RF name (Richard something...?).

Raymond Fiegler from the "Blind Willie" chapter, perhaps?

RF

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Post by s0183616
He wasn't onscreen in that book. Can't remember the details, but he
was kinda like a cult-leader type person that Carol was hanging
around with a bit. Went by another RF name (Richard something...?).

Raymond Fiegler from the "Blind Willie" chapter, perhaps?

Sounds right.

[Shawn Robertson]

so king uses the same character name for several different books ? why ?
are they all bad guy's like in the stand ?

[s0183616]

Post by Shawn Robertson
so king uses the same character name for several different books ? why ?

Because it's the same guy.

[Shawn Robertson]

Re: Is Cell connected to Dark Tower?

Group: alt.books.stephen-king Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2006, 7:54pm (PST+8)
From: ***@yahoo.com (s0183616)
Shawn Robertson wrote:
so king uses the same character name for several different books ? why ?
Because it's the same guy.
....................................................... do you
mean that they are all suppose to be the son of satan ?

[s0183616]

Post by Shawn Robertson
Re: Is Cell connected to Dark Tower?
Group: alt.books.stephen-king Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2006, 7:54pm (PST+8)
so king uses the same character name for several different books ? why ?
Because it's the same guy.
....................................................... do you
mean that they are all suppose to be the son of satan ?

Umm, that's an unreadable mess.

No, why would I mean that? I meant exactly what I said. It's the same
person in all of those books.

[Pink Freud]

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Post by s0183616

Re: Is Cell connected to Dark Tower? Group: alt.books.stephen-king
Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2006, 7:54pm (PST+8)
the same character name for several different books ? why ? Because it's
the same guy.
....................................................... do you
mean that they are all suppose to be the son of satan ?

Umm, that's an unreadable mess.

Made perfect sense to me. Except that "suppose" should read "supposed", I
guess.

Post by s0183616
No, why would I mean that? I meant exactly what I said. It's the same
person in all of those books.

Throw the guy a little slack. Mayhap he hasn't read all the books
completely. He might easily have thought you meant "the same guy" in a
metaphorical way (ie "666" on the scalp, answers to Damien). Difficult to
explain without spoiling though.

[Shawn Robertson]

if it is an unreadable mess then how did you read it ? I thought the
flagg guy from the stand was supposed to be the devil's son, am I wrong
? it has been about ten years since I read the book, I could be
confused.

[s0183616]

Post by Shawn Robertson
if it is an unreadable mess then how did you read it ?

OK, I'll give you that. It was a difficult-to-read mess.

Post by Shawn Robertson
I thought the
flagg guy from the stand was supposed to be the devil's son, am I wrong
? it has been about ten years since I read the book, I could be
confused.

I pretty darn sure you're wrong. I have no recollection of Flagg being
the devil's son and I'm pretty sure I would remember that. He's just a
special bad guy in the King universe.

[Tamara]

Post by Shawn Robertson
if it is an unreadable mess then how did you read it ? I thought the
flagg guy from the stand was supposed to be the devil's son, am I wrong
? it has been about ten years since I read the book, I could be
confused.

no I thought he was mentioned later in the DT series as various incarnations
throughout time, including Maertyn, also known as The Walking Dude, RF in
MANY incarnations (specifically mentioned in The Stand, which I am currently
re-reading) is the initials used... I haven't seen that Flagg is the devil's
son in any of those readings those. I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

Tamara

[Bob]

Post by Shawn Robertson
if it is an unreadable mess then how did you read it ? I thought the
flagg guy from the stand was supposed to be the devil's son, am I wrong
? it has been about ten years since I read the book, I could be
confused.

Not the devils son as far as I know. I think he's closer to the devil
himself in Kings world.
--
-Bob


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[Bob]

Post by Shawn Robertson
so king uses the same character name for several different books ? why ?
are they all bad guy's like in the stand ?

Well they are all evil people and all of the books are all releated to
the Dark Tower series.
--
-Bob


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which they avoid."
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"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
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- George Bernard Shaw
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[Tamara]

Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

and Eyes of the Dragon, and the Dark Tower series, and Hearts in Atlantis,
etc...

and Wolves of the Calla, where he mentions he is known by many other names
in many other worlds...

Tamara

[Bob]

Post by Shawn Robertson
randall flagg is from the stand

And Dark Tower....
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[Bob]

Post by Keeper of the Purple Twilight
Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

Are you serious? Not at all how I pictured Roland.....to each his own I
suppose.
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-Bob


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Post by Keeper of the Purple Twilight
Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

Are you serious? Not at all how I pictured Roland.....to each his own I
suppose.

Dammit....wrong post. Don't I have egg on my face. BTW I've seen a lot
of posts about Cell here and haven't actually read many(been pretty busy
and haven't really been lurking/posting here much),is this a king book I
haven't heard about?
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-Bob


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which they avoid."
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:35:05 -0600, Keeper of the Purple Twilight

Post by Keeper of the Purple Twilight
Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

Not really an answer but another question......I'm currently reading
Cell and the Citgo station (where they took the propane from to blow
the hell outta the crazies in Gaiten) kinda stuck in my mind.....does
anyone think there's a connection bewteen that station and the Citgo
in Wizards and Glass?

[Marie]

Everything King wrote is more or less connected to the Dark Tower anyway
(considering that each story takes place in one of his literary worlds...)
There is a hint that "Cell" does not take place in the "real" world (world
where SK lives in the DT) but in one of his "literary worlds" (a brand of
cars that doesn't exist in the real world, if I remember well), and also,
toward the end, there is an allusion to Charlie the choo-choo...
There are probably other links (like the Citgo station you mentionned)...

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:35:05 -0600, Keeper of the Purple Twilight

Post by Keeper of the Purple Twilight
Is Cell part of the whole Dark Tower thing? (the Raggedy Man sounds
vaguely Randall Flagg-ish...)

Not really an answer but another question......I'm currently reading
Cell and the Citgo station (where they took the propane from to blow
the hell outta the crazies in Gaiten) kinda stuck in my mind.....does
anyone think there's a connection bewteen that station and the Citgo
in Wizards and Glass?